Comments on: Murdoch’s Sunday Sun continues to degrade women on Page Three 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/ London MEP European Parliament Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:58:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Irene 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-46155 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 08:32:21 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-46155 The sun, star and the daily sport are disgusting and degrading to women.I know the sun doesnt do page 3 anymore but it still runs in the star and sport. I hope these so called newspapers stop printing page 3 soon so we dont have to be subjected to these sluts degrading women!

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By: ChrisB 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5949 Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:54:54 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5949 “I cannot count the times I have had to sit next to pervert staring at page 3 on the tube on my way to work”

Move to Iran? They agree with you completely and they’ve done something about it!

This is a highly subjective use of the term pervert. It may be that you’ve got some hang-ups, don’t like adults looking at images of the naked form and it would be easier if you just got help for this, instead of trying to tell the rest of the world what is and isn’t acceptable!

Your argument is “everyone should conform to my norms” – exactly the same as Muslim extremists in Bury Park, and some other historical figures that thought we should live as they wanted. It is clear that this is a form of political agenda, you just don’t realise it.

I went to the national gallery yesterday – there was some pervert staring at images of naked people. They should close this sort of filth down!

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By: Tashelle Roberts 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5944 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:15:42 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5944 Charlotte – I don’t buy the Sun – or the Daily Star – or the Sport – or any other cheap filth – ever – I’ve never bought them in my life but I cannot count the times I have had to sit next to pervert staring at page 3 on the tube on my way to work – and I will fight for my right to be able to travel to work in a safe, secure non sexist atmosphere – and I wont stop until I see change – I am fighting against extreme sexism in media – as for you – you seem to have some sort of political agenda up your sleeve that is honestly way beyond me and I do not want to get involved with….

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By: ChrisB 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5943 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:49:30 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5943 PS

If you were a parent you’d of spotted the real problem for parents this week : CBBC’s broadcast a kids sing-a-long of Bruno Mars “The Lazy Song” :

“find a really nice girl, have some really nice sex, and she’s going to scream out, this is great!”

The Sun is an option – whereas this is on national kids TV, funded by taxpayers. Considerably more offensive….and creepy when sung by kids.

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By: ChrisB 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5942 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:37:29 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5942 Tashelle,

You have written :

“In an ideal world parents would teach their child that these newspapers are trash and their child would never touch it again.

In reality however although parents are trying their level best with their kids, they happen to be working 2 jobs to make ends meet – rushing from one end to the other, kids stay most of their time with a child minder, parents are going through divorce – fathers and mothers come home drunk…”

YES! I seem to live in your ideal world – your “reality” sounds pretty terrible! If Mum and Dad come home drunk after working 2 jobs, you still think page 3 is the problem? You have highlighted perfectly why your argument is meaningless and nonsensical.

I come from a normal, working class background – I’ve had no problem in educating my 8 year old about The Sun, and I am very, very confident that she won’t be winding up on Page 3. That’s what parenting is about – if a parent fails, that isn’t the Sun’s fault. If a parent has no time to parent, that isn’t the Sun’s fault. There are kids in my 8 year olds class that watch 18 movies, far more disturbing than anything to be found in the Sun. Do you want 18 movies banned too? Some of them contain shocking violence against women. Kids don’t have to wait to find those – they’re on a shelf in the house!

Check out the BBC iPlayer, “My Hometown Fanatics : Stacy Dooley” Investigates this week. About halfway through a radical muslim makes the exact same arguments you’re making here (in a remarkably similar fashion). We can choose a closed society, where women are covered, and don’t have the right to do what they want with their body, or we can have our system.

You’ve made the primary arguments for islamofascism. Good luck with that; personally I’d rather look after my kids and let them live in a society of choice, even though I don’t like some of the things in it!

Great Britain has fought hard to become a tolerant society – I’m shocked that there are people think that prohibition is an answer. You can have Britain this way today – move to Bury Park, Luton, you won’t see any women being sexualised in the street, newspapers, etc. It’s just the way you want things already, all women fully covered and men never staring at their breasts; that’s proof that our tolerance extends even to you and your ideology as well…or, just don’t buy The Sun. That’s been working for me up until now.

We live in a liberal democracy – where we have choices and we have extensive freedoms. Some of these freedoms are difficult, and I loathe the Sun, but I would fight to the death to defend them – just like my grandfathers did the last time someone suggested banning things to make society “work”.

You’re trivialising what it is to be young today; they’ve all got internet connections. We don’t worry about her seeing some boobs, we’re more concerned about her finding CP or other horrendous material; you can’t police a world like that, and the print papers are dieing. When Page 3 finally does stop, your problems will just be starting and you’ll look back at it as a quaint, innocent version of the new paradigm. Hopefully, you’ll of educated your kids to navigate these problems by then, because that’s where the real fault lies – with the parents!

For hundreds of years women have been “pleasuring themselves”, as you put it, with pictures of NUDE MEN(!) – your bizarre argument applies equally to most classical art. I’ve taken my kid to see many great works of art, and there were many nude statues and pictures. There is nothing wrong with the human form – stop looking at The Sun, get councilling and get over it!

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By: Charlotte Vere | Founder | Women On ... 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5940 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:51:51 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5940 It sounds to me like you just don’t like The Sun. So don’t buy it.

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By: Tashelle Roberts 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5939 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:45:46 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5939 oh and there’s more Charlotte – these “newspapers” don’t ONLY feature nude girls to pleasure men – they also refer to women as ‘tarts’ and ‘cougars’ they refer to breasts as ‘basket balls’
when the Towie sisters were reporting the story of their dads arrest – the girls were featured together in their underwear(you would be blind to NOT see a problem in this?)
another instance in an article “Bodyguards for battered Towie sisters” one of them was featured again in her underwear…
There was another article of a woman accused of benefit fraud – the woman was over weight – the Sun headline was “benefats fraudster” sub-heading “Woman too big for court” in the first paragraph in bold type “she was too fat to get into court” and she is described as “squeezing into ” her car after speaking to a Sun journalist.
STILL DEFENDING THEM?
cos I could give you much more……………..

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By: Tashelle Roberts 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5938 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:21:29 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5938 Yes Charlotte I know people like the sun – off course they would….the sun runs articles on who had sex with who – who cheated on who – who took their clothes off where –

it runs a nude photograph of young girl to stare at

of course its gonna be the best selling newspaper –

BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING SELLS – DOESN’T MAKE IT RIGHT??

in fact the wrong thing sell much better than the right thing..

P.s – I don’t know anything about politics or what the sun supports or doesn’t support so please – stick to the point?? (the point being the publication of pictures of nude women for the pleasure of men in easily accessible media in case you hadn’t figured that out…)

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By: Tashelle Roberts 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5937 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:16:58 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5937 No Charlotte – Facebook is something shared by a few friends – maybe friends of friends at worst – at her pictures were not nude..Yes definitely she should take them off!

Page 3 is nation wide – a whole whole country of men string at her breasts……….million times worse..

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By: Tashelle Roberts 2012/02/27/murdochs-sunday-sun-continues-to-degrade-women-on-page-three/#comment-5936 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:13:39 +0000 ?p=16856#comment-5936 Charlotte, If you want more for women – you would not be campaigning for womens naked bodies to be used for mens pleasure – your take on page 3 is extremely twisted as you seem to think women being used is something that benefits women?

being able to take your clothes off for the camera does not prove confidence – I have confidence – and I am darn happy with my body – I love wearing a nice dress that shows off my figure – but I will not SELL my body to pleasure men… if a woman thinks this is all she is worth – she doesn’t think she can do anything more with her life – doesn’t think she can become something in life so she shows her breasts for money – this shows the opposite of confidence – and yes – they are victims….

Every woman has breasts and every woman can show them – it isn’t really much of an achievement in life – so if you are really on about how the 18 year old girl selling her body is so awesome – and you wish you could too – go ahead – but the only thing you will be proving is your LACK of confidence in being able to make anything real of yourself…

our campaign here is not against the page 3 girls… In all truthfulness I wish I could talk to these girls – help them understand that they are being used..laughed at (Have you seen the “news in brief” comment next to the nude girl?? inviting men to laugh at her??)

using a woman’s body to simply pleasure a man is lowering a woman to the lowest possible standard – I cannot stand by on the tube and watch a fat old 60 year old man whose got a wife and kids at home – look at a nude 18 year old girl……..

PLUS – have you watched the video in my original article?? if you haven’t – take a look…

There’s a young girl with only her hair and covering her breasts that says

“look at your woman, now look at me…now look at your woman…now look at me.. I know she isn’t me….but you can buy page 3 and pretend I am your woman and that we are on a beach together…and blah blah”

REALLY?? so defending this??

A viewers WOMAN had to work two jobs – she has had 3 kids – she is working hard to make sure her family is happy – She is probably 40 years old – maybe 50 – she dedicated her whole life to being a good wife – a good mother…
She might not have the perfect breasts – or the perfect figure – she may not be the 20 year old girl on that video…
BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER ANY LESS OF A WOMAN…

How dare the sun demean women – all real women – this way – watch the video and you will see – why should that man buy Page 3 because his woman is “not good enough”??????????

How dare page 3 and the Sun make a judgement on WHO is the perfect woman and who ISN’T???

The viewer of that video – the viewer of page 3 CHOSE to be with HIS woman 20 – maybe 30 years ago when she DID have the perfect figure and the perfect body – before she had babies for him – but everyone grows older – you cannot have the perfect figure and the perfect body forever…….

That does not mean you can just ditch her and “pretend you are with the page 3 girl on the beach”

So Charlotte, it is you that has got it all wrong…you watched the video..tell me what you think……………..what about the REAL women out there..?? and I can assure you that the amount of women that look like a page 3 girl is negligible compared to the ones that don’t…….

take a look at the number of girls out there who are getting breast implants because they DON’T look like a page 3 girl…women who look confidence in themselves because these filthy “newspapers” and media in general judge women solely on their breasts and backsides? take a look at the number of girls with depression over their weight – girls on unhealthy diets – I could go on and on about what the problems caused by women being portrayed as sex objects

THE MEDIA SHOULD PROMOTE CONFIDENCE IN WOMEN BY TELLING THEM ITS OK TO BE CURVY – ITS OK TO BE SKINNY – ITS OK TO BE TALL, SHORT, BLACK , WHITE, BROWN –

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