Comments on: SWING TO LABOUR IN DOWNHAM 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/ London MEP European Parliament Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:53:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Hopespringeternal 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-504 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:52:45 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-504 The B.N.P. leadership are a lot more authoritarian than what’s in place now, and under their piracy we’de have even less freedoms than we do today.
Most people don’t read their manifesto or beliefs, which in itself is a frightening aspect of modern Society, – caused (in my own humble opinion), by the dumbing down of our Nations people through left wing think tanks and Socialist media outlets.

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-503 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:19 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-503 *or indeed quite a fair bit of the content :S BNP are racist – its not the onmly reason people vote for them ,but its certainly a big reason!!

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-502 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:41:04 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-502 however i will admit i dont agree with the tone – i think we all aagree here that the BNP are the purest definition of evil!

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By: Hopespringeternal 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-499 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:08:03 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-499 I don’t much like reading articles in the guardian, as their politically correct, and obvious Millbank induced “journalism” churns my stomach to the pits of nausea. However on this occasion, I feel that the article answers Miss Honeyballs questions about the fall in Lib Dem vote succinctly.

To wilfully object to the flying of our Countries National flag above the local Town hall is beyond the comprehension of sanity. Therefore, I can only conclude that a certain percentage of the core Lib Dem vote stayed away to protest their rightful disgust.

The backlash to political correctness has begun in earnest, but as yet, all of the leftist parties in Britain are still sticking doggedly to their own righteous mantras of the “We know whats best for you” doctrine, – that the rest of us down trodden saps are now so deeply weary of.

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-498 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:05:30 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-498 i completley agree with it hopesrpingenternal

and i would like to share something else that i read today – from the guardian, and no doubt this is as much for you to agree with hopespringeternal as much as Mary to ponder on.

Afterall, Mary Honeyball stated quite clearly how confident that the press would agree with her – ” If you think your argument is credible you should put it to the press and see what they make of it.”

here’s the evidence to prove to the contary.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehillblog/2009/feb/23/labour-bnp-far-right

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-485 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:09:44 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-485 MAry i have answered you questions – it is you that has refused to answer mine. Or anybody elses for that matter. I delivered in downham, how can it be assumption when the leaflets say it all?

i have answered to your response about redbrige, im still waiting to hear what you have to say about downham.

Comes back to what i have said before – “avoid any challenge to their mislead views…and the moment it gets too hot, the evidence too convincing… the moment their spun lead lines cant dig them out of any hole they dig themselves into – they turn their back and run.”

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By: maryhoneyballmep 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-484 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:56:14 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-484 Hopesprings eternal and Acer2007 my experience of campaigning in Downham and elsewhere tells me a sizable minority of racist voters have voted Lib Dem in PREVIOUS elections (Sorry to shout, but you keep ignoring this point). You continue to refuse to acknowledge that in some parts of London such Redbridge the Lib Dems sill do use race.

Acer2007 all your arguments are imputations and assumptions. I’ve known Pauline for over 20 years and the vast amounts of work she has done on South Africa and fighting racism everywhere. You can make as many claims as you like, there is no evidence for them. If you think your argument is credible you should put it to the press and see what they make of it.

I am sorry you do not want to answer questions and debate, assertions are insufficient, so I am unlikey to respond to any more of your posts.

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-480 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:37:03 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-480 i think we agree hopespringenternal :o)

In another blog post, The MEP stated that i had not addressed the question of redbridge, heres my response

I do have to say your evidence base is pretty weak – i have direct comments and leaflets – you have a blog of reported actions.

I did not see Redbirdge leaflets, how could i begin to comment on such? Your expecting me to comment on things i have never seen before – im sure we would all agree that if what you say proves to be the intentions of the local party (note i use the word IF) then of course i would not agree with what happened.

But as i say, i did not see anything in redbridge- i wasnt there. Therefore, i cant comment – im not trying to get out of it, really im not. I think its reasonable not to respond and comment on something that is based on secondary evidence, having not had first had experience of it.

However you DID deliever in Downham – you did knock on doors in Downham – you did push letters and literature which was motivated to stir up racial motivations in the area. You DID back the candidates which started this campaign.

You saw them and the leaflets and saw it acceptable enough to push them through the letterboxes of the poeple of downham. Whilst you did not conjure up this well thought out campaign – Through these actions, as an elected offical, you ENDORSED that campaign.

Effectively you answered my question the moment you went to downham.

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By: Hopespringeternal 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-471 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:30:59 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-471 Mizz Honeyball,

You say to acer 2007:

“Can you suggest where the drop of 19.2% in the Liberal Democrat vote went? Only the BNP increased their vote. I do not know the detail of this campaign but surely it must send an alarm bell ringing for the Liberal Democrat Party there”?

How about this for another viewpoint other than your own then.

The Lib Dem support stayed at home because they didn’t think it possible that New Labour, at this current juncture in time could possibly beat them, and yet another percentage of the Downham public who had not previously bothered to vote at all, thought to themselves – “The major political parties are not speaking to me about my life and my concerns, perhaps I’ll go out and protest my frustrations by voting B.N.P. – Seems plausable to me.

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By: acer2007 2009/02/20/swing-to-labour-in-downham/#comment-467 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:49:22 +0000 http://maryhoneyballmep.wordpress.com/?p=838#comment-467 and in regards to BNP voting tactically with the lib dems because you are the ‘multicultural party’ – the lib dems fielded a black candidate in Downham, why would racially motivated party back them in order to achieve their objectives???

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