Comments on: LET’S SHAME THE PEOPLE AT AMAZON WHO THINK RAPE IS FUN

By: maryhoneyballmep

maryhoneyballmep — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:26:33 +0000

AJS and Michael I do not think Amazon play every game but they were quite happy to see a title called Rapelay and the picture should have regsitered something surely? No one could be bothered to check.

Martin thank you for your kindness yes I lost a post moving to wordpress it is back up now.

Thomas I agree Japanese authorities are wrong, but I have no locus there. On politics this country is a vastly better place after 12 years of Labour. Any examination of the facts shows that. You are welcome to your opinions but they do not seem to be based on any facts. Here are 50 facts for you and those of you who seem to ignore what Labour has delivered for everybody.

http://www.gofourth.co.uk/put_away_your_white_flag_matthew

By: thomas

thomas — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:54:49 +0000

‘It’s therefore important that more of us who believe in improving women’s lives should stand up against the likes of amazon.com when they do something unacceptable.’

and what of the game developers? the publishers? I’m led to believe this is a Japanese game, never intended or offered for release outside of their market. As well as being sold in the US to a US customer.

As I asked you before, and you completely ignored – look at the state of this country, thanks to your fellow Party members. look at the endemic sleaze and corruption they’re engaged in, and look how deep the hole they’ve so kindly dug for is us. look at the infringements of civil liberties they are responsible for. and you think banning a videogame will make everything better?

when you do tune into Sanity FM, you will let us know wont you?

By: maryhoneyballmep

maryhoneyballmep — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:51:39 +0000

Fiona – thankyou for your support. I agree – why does this game exist at all? It’s a very bad day indeed when rape becomes a game.

It’s therefore important that more of us who believe in improving women’s lives should stand up against the likes of amazon.com when they do something unacceptable.

By: The authentic voice of liberalism

The authentic voice of liberalism — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:54:52 +0000

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By: Martin Meenagh

Martin Meenagh — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:02:05 +0000

And, good god, I agree with India Knight. I once went onto Harry’s Place, which is a hate site pretending to be left wing, with a piece about the Southall Black Sisters who were under threat in Ealing. They probably disagree with everything I am, and yet they save lives, so they’re a good cause. The abuse and poison people came out with was unbelievable, and I think it’s just par for the course on the internet. One good thing I will say about Mary is that she hasn’t generally censored anything–which was why I was disappointed in her when that Labour corruption story was not moved to the new blog.

By: Martin Meenagh

Martin Meenagh — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:57:40 +0000

By the way, if you are the Fiona Colley who is a Labour Councillor in Southwark, well done on the East London line

By: Martin Meenagh

Martin Meenagh — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:54:30 +0000

Fiona. I think the truth is that the internet is a free space. What amazon does approximates to that–it brings people and the products of people’s minds or wishes together. Allowing offence to be registered and to lead to some then inevitable ban procedure would mean that Amazon suddenly had some huge cost and its business model was complicated. So public decency, in a sense, depends upon outrage being filtered ‘upwards’ unless you want some censorious policy that ends up worrying about everything.

What about Lolita, or Germinal (there’s a horrible industrial castration by mob story there). Or photographic histories of lynching, or assaults on religion, or a book on how to cook veal, or dogs? Everyone could get outraged by these. I admit the rape game is appalling–but, really, so is any videogame that depends on killing or beating. The latter are still fun to some, who can distinguish between reality and the sicker and darker parts of human enjoyment.

I think part of the problem on this post–sorry for the long message–is that Mary has spent a good deal of time, some good naturedly or instinctively, insulting people and has stirred up a hornets nest.

My own response is to suggest either not to dish it out, and enable comment moderation, or to take it all on and engage with debate. As for your cheap shot about the whole set of comments–well, stop patronising people, take the shackles off your mind, and think.

By: Fiona Colley

Fiona Colley — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:25:24 +0000

Well, isn’t this set of comments a perfect illustration of India Knight’s point http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/india_knight/article5733634.ece

Come on guys, you may disagree with Mary, but why not debate the issue in an adult and polite way?

Mary – I tend to agree with you that Amazon could do a lot better. Even if they can’t vet every 3rd party product they could have some sort of flagging system so customers could quickly alert them.

However, I think the bigger issue is that this game exists at all. What sort of sick person wants to play at rape?

By: Womble On Tour

Womble On Tour — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:39:26 +0000

OK, so once you’ve published executives’ names on the internet , ‘so their friends, neighbours and colleagues know these are the people who think rape is a nice fantasy, and “just a bit of fun”‘, what do you want ‘their friends, neighbours and colleagues’ (and everyone else) to do ? Attack their cars ? Smash their windows ? Firebomb their homes ? you realy are a nasty, vindictive piece of work, aren’t you ?

By: Martin Meenagh

Martin Meenagh — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:45:41 +0000

Oh dear dear dear. Thats the catholics, videogamers, internet users, libertarians, smokers, deviants, and the zanier parts of the pro-palestinian left now alienated. Never mind. The last time you had a go at a major corporation–ryanair–they deserved it, so I suppose this just balances the karma. Be careful of m’learned friends though, Mary.

As an aside, where has your strong condemnation of corrupt Labour ministers disappeared to? It was one of the last posts on your old blog and seems to have mysteriously been lost when it comes to your new one, though of course I may be mistaken.

I do not expect this comment to be edited.